"Quite honestly, corporations aren't fair,"—so says Google chief of staff, Sally Ivester in this week’s episode. Still, here’s the thing. The workplace might not be fair, but Sally quite obviously loves it all the same.
Sally’s our first guest from Big Tech. Sure, we’re always talking about that sector—but it was good to converse with a Wharton-trained millennial mom who’s, quite literally, Googling her career so the rest of us don’t have to.
The Mode/Switch’s intergenerational conversation plays out interestingly this week. Our Gen Z host (Haley) and our Millennial (LaShone) are enthusiastic about Sally’s insights. You’ll notice that Gen Xer (David) and Boomer (Ken) have some pushback. For my part, this is a conversation I’ve been looking forward to for months! And Sally brought it.
So, pull up a chair to the Mode/Switch roundtable for stories about what even the most thorough classroom and corporate training leave unsaid.
How to advocate for yourself when your workload’s unfair.
How to negotiate your boss’s bad ideas.
How to cope with a disappointing performance review.
How not to assume your work speaks for itself.
I’m guessing you’ll want to connect with Sally’s work more fully after this conversation. You can do so here.
This week, a new thing. We and our guest respond to Gen Z questions from Illinois, from Michigan, and from D.C. And don’t miss the “Spell It Out” feature, which focuses on the workplace phenomenon of “Rust Out.”
Last thought: some marketer dude emailed me this past week, congratulating the Mode/Switch for being among the top 10% of podcasts. No idea where he got that stat. Like, did he mean we’re in the top 10% of West-Michigan-nice podcasters? Nah, he just wanted us to subscribe to his platform.
But still. This cross-generational, work-culture conversation does offer what Raymond Carver would call a small, good thing. I hope you share it with a friend.
-craig
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